HW, BOC: Names - Imaginos, God and Church of HW

Hoarse Whisperer beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM
Wed Dec 3 08:43:59 EST 1997


>>Andy Gilham writes:
>>> You know, I never really believed either of the "official" stories
about
>>> the origins of the names "Hawkwind" or "Blue Oyster Cult".

>>I'm afraid I believe absolutely (given the state of the people and the
>>state of mind of that period!) in the Hawkwind story.   Elegant though
>>it might be to believe in an esoteric origin for the Hawkwind name I
>>regret that humanity prevails and we have to accept reality and late
>>1960s for this.......<BIG BIT SNIPPED TO AVOID WASTE>

>- I'd have let it lie except that I wonder what that Lanois song is all
about?
> And if there's a common origin for what is an unusual phrase?
>I'm glad you raised the point about HW being subversive and
>counter-cultural, which they really were

>Hawkwind were considered Dangerous to Society.   This was not a safe
>band to be associated with.   We should remember that.  And acknowledge
>and appreciate what they did.    Don't try to change that, please.

>I still do not believe this. As Dave mentioned in the Sniffin'
>Flowers interview, there is a esoteric meaning.


Is this not the rational mind over the emotive mind?  Is this not the
age-old "There is a God/There is NO God" argument?  Or the
Darwinian/Genesis loggerhead???

Here, we've got two sides.  Both totally happy with the end result, but
at utter odds over the original conception.

On one hand the rational mind says:
  "It is the basic SpitFart.  There is no more.  We might like for there
to be more, but we should be satisfied with th truth as it is."

Yet on the other hand, we have the philosophical mind (paranoid X-Files
mind?) saying:
  "That's all very well and good, but I do want more, an dlookee here, I
just found out this, which seems to connect point and A to point B, and
oh look here's point C which snicks into my theory nicely.  What do you
think of that then?  the implications from what Mr X said in 197x seem
to indicate a knowledge of point D which would lead me to believe there
are parallels with points E and F..."
  And there before your very eyes is a brand new belief system!

Is this not how religions get started?  Check out Samuel L. Jackson in
Pulp Fiction after his "Divine Intervention"  from one event, he built
an entire religious structure, which led him to change his entire life.
As I mentioned in a post earlier, about Imaginos, check out Umberto
Eco's book Foucault's Pendulum, which is basically about the human need
for meaning.  It makes some people try to live other lives by watching
soaps, and it makes some people try to build massive Myth Cycles from
nothing but half-imagined hints and references from occult-ish books.

I think that since the Church of Hawkwind exists, I can consider my
point PROVED! (*G*)

Chris.
the Phantom Raspberry Blower of Old London Town.

--Remember - Armageddon started quietly.

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