out&intake

[\joe]

At 11:02 1997-05-11 +0200, Bernhard wrote:
>Hello
>
>
>For more informations about live tracks on records / CD's, have a look at:
>
>http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique/Hawkwind/files/live.txt
>
>
>OUT & INTAKE CD
>
>- Turner Point         (live 1982)
>- Waiting For Tomorrow (live 1982)
>- Cajun Jinx           (studio)
>- Solitary Mind Games  (live 1982)
>- Starflight           (studio)
>- Ejection             (studio)
>- Hassan I Sahba       (live 1986)
>- Flight To Maputo     (studio)
>- Confrontation        (studio)
>- 5/4                  (studio)
>- Ghost Dance          (live 1982)

[cd extras left out, because now I'm talking vinyl only]


The Out and Intake vinyl has an inner sleeve with a quite good list on who
appeared on which track. This list isn't available on either of the CD's I
have (griffin and dojo) and it goes like this:  (Ejection is A6, Hassan is B1)

Dave Brock:        voc, gtr, k'board, synth
Harvey Bainbridge: voc, k'board, bass, perc
Huw Lloyd-Langton: voc, lead gtr  on A2,4   + B1,3,4,5
Alan Davey:        voc, bass      on A3,6   + B1,2,3
Danny Thompson:    drums, balloon on A1,3,6 + B1,2,3
Martin Griffin:    drums          on A1,2,4 + B4,5
Nik Turner:        sax            on A1,2
Paul Cobbold:      organ          on A2

I decode the above information as Brock and Bainbridge appears on every
track on the record, and engineer/producer Cobbold has added himself on the
track "Waiting for Tomorrow". The other musicians will appear as follows:

- Turner Point         (live 1982)     GR    TH TU
- Waiting For Tomorrow (live 1982)  LL GR       TU
- Cajun Jinx           (studio)           DA TH
- Solitary Mind Games  (live 1982)  LL GR
- Starflight           (studio)
- Ejection             (studio)           DA TH

- Hassan I Sahba       (live 1986)  LL    DA TH
- Flight To Maputo     (studio)           DA TH
- Confrontation        (studio)     LL    DA TH
- 5/4                  (studio)     LL GR
- Ghost Dance          (live 1982)  LL GR

There is a slight pattern here, Griffin and Lloyd-Langton plays together, so
are Davey and Thompson. Griffin left at the end of '82 and both Thompson and
Davey entered the ship at Stonehenge Festival '84.

1)
If the track "Turner Point" is live, the inner sleeve list must be wrong, as
it claims both Griffin and Thompson played drums and/or balloon. On the
other hand, if the inner sleeve is correct - "Turner Point" must be studio.
I don't know anything about Griffin's studio career in Hawkwind post 1982,
nor is my profession Hawkwind Live Tapes - so I can't say anything here.

2)
I assumed if WfT, SMG and GD was live tracks, it was likely the fourth
Griffin/Lloyd-Langton track should be live too (of course taken from the
same night, same venue). So if I was wrong, from when and where does "The
Scan-5/4" studio outtake originate? Is it _Choose Your Masques_ era?
(live 1982 would have fitted well, but on the other hand Hawkwind has not
exactly been a structured puzzle through the years)


>Bernhard

\\joe