OFF: "gotten"?

[Jerry]

John A Swartz wrote:
> > > O.K., my Brain Surgeons page is about done, and it's gotten
> > > the "two thumbs up" from Deb and Al

Jerry:
> > Er, "it's gotten"? Shouldn't that be "it's got"?

Ron Jennings wrote:
> i believe "its got" should be used when you mean to say "it has"
> (possession.)
> "it's gotten" should be used when you say "it has recieved."  or "it has
> gotten to the point where..."
> failing that, maybe it shouldn't be used at all.

I am pretty sure "gotten" is not a valid word in English as spoken in the UK.

> then again, don't quote me. i'm one of those slacker types who thinks: if
> the message was understood, it doesn't matter. (unless you're writing a
> book, or learning english as a second language.)

Hehe, both... :-) I;m very interested in the English language, that's why I asked.

Jerry