BOC-L Digest - 31 Aug 1998 to 1 Sep 1998
Mitch Goldman
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> There are 14 messages totalling 466 lines in this issue.
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> Topics of the day:
>
> 1. HW: The Truth/
> 2. Question about Imaginos Tour
> 3. OFF: ROCK FAMILY TREES / ROCK COVER VERSIONS
> 4. BRAIN: Thoughts about the new album (2)
> 5. OFF: Molly Hatchet
> 6. BOC - Al use of a gas mask?? (2)
> 7. I've got a sausage machine (2)
> 8. HW: New Era? (WAS: I've got a sausage machine) (2)
> 9. OFF: Willie Dixon Led Zeppelin lawsuit (2)
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> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 11:22:08 +0100
> From: M Holmes <fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK>
> Subject: Re: HW: The Truth/
>
> Bob Lennon writes:
>
> > In a message dated 98-08-26 07:00:04 EDT, you write:
> >
> > << On Aug 26, 10:50am, M Holmes wrote:
> >
> > >HIM???? He works for Bill Clinton. He has your FBI file.
> >
> > Yup, but you and I got his, right?
> >
> > >FoFP
> >
> > Arjan H >>
> > no,,,,but i have his tie
>
> The question is: who has his humidor?
>
> FoFP
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 08:35:33 EDT
> From: Rich Hamel <RHamel4129 at AOL.COM>
> Subject: Re: Question about Imaginos Tour
>
> In a message dated 98-08-31 05:30:26 EDT, you write:
>
> << K wrote:
>
> > Do any of you know if BOC ever played Imaginos in its
> entirety after its
> release in 1988?
>
> No, they did not. I believe they only things they ever
> played were "I Am the
> One...", "Astronomy", and "In the Presence of Another World".
>
> -Chris Baker
> >>
>
> I THINK when I saw them on this tour (at the Club Casino in
> Hampton, NH) they
> played Del Rio's Song, but I'm not sure. They definitely
> played "I am the one"
> and "Astronomy" (with the single guitar notes of the old
> version breaking into
> the quicker guitar intro of the newer one). They also did "In
> the Presence".
>
> I doubt they did any of the other songs, since they are much more of a
> production, given the lighter gear BOC's been carrying around
> the last 10+
> years.
>
> Rich
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 13:47:41 +0100
> From: Stuart A Hamilton <xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
> Subject: OFF: ROCK FAMILY TREES / ROCK COVER VERSIONS
>
> The previously mentioned BBC Rock Family Trees starts Friday
> 4 September. The six programmes are;
> Folk Rock [Mamas & The Papas / Lovin Spoonful]
> Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
> The Mersey Sound
> Banshees And Other Creatures
> The Prog Rock Years
> And God Created Manchester.
>
> A further aside. Trapped in a hospital ward last week with
> three seventeen year olds I was subjected to MTV for 4 whole
> days. And as a collector of cover versions I was hit in the
> pocket by dance versions of "I Love Rock And Roll" which has
> re-emerged as "Everybody Get Up" by 5IVE, "Paradise City" by
> N-TRANCE and "You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet" by BUS STOP which
> actually has Randy Bachman in the video looking like Jerry
> Garcia. And do you know what was worst of all. None of my
> ward mates remembered any of the originals.
>
> God, I feel old.
>
> Z
> NP - 5IVE - Everybody Get Up
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 09:26:10 -0400
> From: brian halligan <brianh at PULLEYN.COM>
> Subject: Re: BRAIN: Thoughts about the new album
>
> Andrew said:
>
> >I don't mind the URL pointing to a place to get lyrics instead
> >of printing them, as a cost saving move..... though I would
> >like it if said site had something you could print out (say, on
> >.pdf that would be usable on any system) as liner notes....
>
> Great idea. That way you could use the booklet like Frank Zappa did
> with "You Are What You Is," and throw in an essay or article. Maybe
> even some band-produced artwork a la "Career of Christmas"?
>
> >My latest prediction for the album title:
> >"Premedication"
>
> "Pox Set"
>
> Brian
>
> ----------
> Brian Halligan
> mailto:brianh at pulleyn.com
> http://home.earthlink.net/~halligan/wicker.html
>
> "We are drawing a moustache on the wanted poster of the face
> of music."
> -Fierce Wicker
> ----------
>
> > And he took the stars in his hands
> > and as he scattered them he'd shout:
> > "I'm the Joker of the Universe!
> > I'm What it's all about!"
> >
> > - "The Great Sun Jester"
> > by Blue Öyster Cult (Eric Bloom, Michael Moorcock)
> >
> >-AAA
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 07:19:13 -0700
> From: "BREVARD, Adrian R." <abrevard at SHL.COM>
> Subject: OFF: Molly Hatchet
>
> >Isn't it amazing how this sort of stuff is still big in Germany? :)
> >
> >Hard rock & heavy metal always were big in Germany. Don't
> ask me why....
>
> Cake...
>
> They know good beer and good rock and roll when they hear it...
>
> Ghost in the Ruins
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 11:02:50 -0400
> From: Paul Mather <paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU>
> Subject: Re: BRAIN: Thoughts about the new album
>
> On Mon, 31 Aug 1998, brian halligan wrote:
>
> => Andrew said:
> =>
> => >I don't mind the URL pointing to a place to get lyrics instead
> => >of printing them, as a cost saving move..... though I would
> => >like it if said site had something you could print out (say, on
> => >.pdf that would be usable on any system) as liner notes....
> =>
> => Great idea. That way you could use the booklet like Frank
> Zappa did
> => with "You Are What You Is," and throw in an essay or article.
>
> Except Frank printed the lyrics in that booklet...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Paul.
>
> obCD: Egg, _Egg_
>
> PS: At the very least you'd want PURLs or handles, not URLs.
>
> e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu
>
> "I didn't mean to take up all your sweet time"
> --- James Marshall Hendrix
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 12:41:22 -0400
> From: John A Swartz <jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG>
> Subject: BOC - Al use of a gas mask??
>
> Can anyone (preferably Al) confirm or deny this? The
> following post was
> recently posted to USENET:
>
> "Even though it's really hard to think about much of
> anything, what with the
> terrible news about Ricky, I decided I had better post this
> before I forget
> it.
> About a week ago, I met a fellow at a really cool used record
> store who was
> a big fan of B C around the Secret Treaties era... he had a
> lot to say about
> the laser show that was to come later, but he also mentioned
> something I
> thought was interesting about Albert Bouchard when they did
> Me262 during the
> Agents of Fortune and Spectres tours: he said that somewhere
> towards the
> end of the song (presumably after the five guitars), Albert
> would be wearing
> a German style gas-mask. Eventually, rockets would shoot
> from either side
> of Al's drums, and he would then take the mask off and throw
> it into the
> crowd. He claimed to have actually had one of these masks
> for a time, and
> as a kid had painted the Kronos symbol on the front of it
> with blue paint
> (and, of course, since lost it somewhere along the line).
> I guess my question is, can anyone else substantiate this?
> If so, I really
> think it ought to be added to the BOC FAQ... I think this has
> to be at least
> as interesting as where it mentions that they used to use
> colored lights in
> ETI during the "queen in yellow and king in red" line..."
>
>
> John
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 19:07:11 +0100
> From: Brian Coulthard <brian-coulthard at EMAIL.MSN.COM>
> Subject: I've got a sausage machine
>
> Did anyone see the Reeves and Mortimer show on Saturday on
> BBC1 when Vic
> Reeves sang a rather unusual version of Silver Machine while
> some one was
> stuffing a sausage. He changed the words to "I've got a
> sausage machine"
>
>
> On the subject of the proposed Ledge of Darkness tour while
> it could be the
> Hawks finest hour well hour and a half I hope the current
> line up does not
> get neglected as Rizz, Richards and Tree have got the
> potential to make some
> of the freshest and most interesting music for years. Could
> they support?
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 14:39:46 -0400
> From: "Hall, Russell J" <russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM>
> Subject: Re: I've got a sausage machine
>
> I love to grind
> with a sausage machine
> and I'm still pretty keen
> Do you want to grind
> forequarters & hind
> making some links,
> right next to the sink
> It works like a dream
> and antiseptically clean
> thats my sausage Machine
> I love to grind
> with my sausage machine
> > Do you want to grind
> > forequarters & hind
> stuffing those skins,
> made from cow intestines
>
> I know what you are saying - these lyrics are the 'wurst'
>
>
>
> > ----------
> > From: Brian Coulthard[SMTP:brian-coulthard at EMAIL.MSN.COM]
> > Reply To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List
> > Sent: Monday, August 31, 1998 2:07 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L
> > Subject: I've got a sausage machine
> >
> > Did anyone see the Reeves and Mortimer show on Saturday on
> BBC1 when Vic
> > Reeves sang a rather unusual version of Silver Machine
> while some one was
> > stuffing a sausage. He changed the words to "I've got a
> sausage machine"
> >
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 18:52:23 -0400
> From: Albert T Bouchard <ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM>
> Subject: Re: BOC - Al use of a gas mask??
>
> >end of the song (presumably after the five guitars), Albert
> would be wearing
> >a German style gas-mask. Eventually, rockets would shoot
> from either side
>
> I only did it for a few shows. I got the mask from Dick Manitoba at a
> 'Taters show and wore it for a while until I got tired of it
> and threw it
> to the crowd one night. It was from the Army/Navy store on
> 14th street.
> Don't know if it was German. Doubt it though. I also wore a
> gas mask in the
> Regal Tones (high school band) whenever we played at the
> American Legion
> (because of the smoke). We always had pyro ever since we
> played with Kiss.
> I don't remember any actual rockets though.
>
> >of Al's drums, and he would then take the mask off and throw
> it into the
> >crowd. He claimed to have actually had one of these masks
> for a time, and
> >as a kid had painted the Kronos symbol on the front of it
> with blue paint
>
> That was probably it.
> Al
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 11:26:30 +1000
> From: Max Wilcox <m.wilcox at UQ.NET.AU>
> Subject: HW: New Era? (WAS: I've got a sausage machine)
>
> Brian Coulthard wrote:
>
> > On the subject of the proposed Ledge of Darkness tour while
> it could be the
> > Hawks finest hour well hour and a half I hope the current
> line up does not
> > get neglected as Rizz, Richards and Tree have got the
> potential to make some
> > of the freshest and most interesting music for years. Could
> they support?
>
> Assuming that all of these rumors are true (or
> even a small
> percentage of them are true) it looks like the Hawks could
> quite possibly make a
> come-back. Its certainly what they need, considering the
> fiasco with Distant
> Horizons (i.e. the complete lack of marketing & the overall rush job).
> As far as Rizz, Richards & Tree being a part of
> the new stuff - I
> think they should (and most likely will). The Hawks have
> never been too worried
> about having a large number of members in the band (more than
> 3 or 4, that is) -
> and IMHO that is when they have done some of their best
> stuff. Having diverse
> influences was always what kept them going - Calvert's
> singing/lyrics or Huw's
> guitar vs Brock, etc., etc.
> Lastly, I'd love to see the band get a dedicated
> synth player back
> into the fold. Nuff said...
>
> - Max Wilcox
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 11:57:56 EST
> From: Martyn Lawrence <martynl at FUJITSU.COM.AU>
> Subject: Re: HW: New Era? (WAS: I've got a sausage machine)
>
> > Lastly, I'd love to see the band get a
> dedicated synth player back
> > into the fold. Nuff said...
> >
> > - Max Wilcox
> >
> I agree totally re: a dedicated keyboard player,I guess Crum
> was just a
> "guest" on last years tour.
> Maybe with Dave talking to Tim Blake & Harvey re: ledge of
> Darkness,something
> can be sorted out.
> But will it happen thats the big question,and would it be a
> one-off reunion
> gig ala gong (which then took off permanently again ,all
> except blake ?
> does anyone know why he didn't carry on after the birthday
> gig ?)or will it
> be a full tour both in the uk and overseas.
> I would like to see something along the lines of the
> butterworth books,with the
> band playing for 10 hours or so.
>
> Also does anyone know where I can get hold of Harveys "red shift" ?
>
> regards
>
> Marty(going back in the Box)
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 00:44:38 -0400
> From: Paul Mather <paul at GROMIT.NDLTD.ORG>
> Subject: OFF: Willie Dixon Led Zeppelin lawsuit
>
> I was just listening to the Willie Dixon Chess Box Set this evening,
> and, listening to CD 2, it made me wonder if Willie Dixon ever won his
> lawsuit against Led Zeppelin for their "Whole Lotta Love" single? (It
> bears *more* than a passing resemblance to the song he wrote for Muddy
> Waters, called "You Need Love.")
>
> Actually, Zeppelin appear to have covered quite a few of
> Dixon's songs:
> "You Shook Me," "Bring It On Home" (on-topic HW reference:), and "I
> Can't Quit You Baby." (I notice they don't credit him on "Bring It On
> Home," at least not on the copy of _Led Zeppelin II_ I have to hand.
> Tsk, tsk, shame on them...)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Paul.
>
> ob2CD: Willie Dixon, _The Chess Box_
>
> e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu
>
> "I didn't mean to take up all your sweet time"
> --- James Marshall Hendrix
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 09:32:27 +0100
> From: Stuart A Hamilton <xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
> Subject: Re: OFF: Willie Dixon Led Zeppelin lawsuit
>
> Yes he did as did many others, and all rereleases have the
> full credits.
> For example "Whole Lotta Love" is now a Page/Plant/Jones/Bonham/Dixon
> credit, "Baby Come On Home" has a Page/Plant/Bert Berns credit and
> "Travelling Riverside Blues" has a Page/Plant/Robert Johnson credit.
>
> Just a shame Mr Dixon didn't get the money when he was alive.
>
> Z
> NP Ted Nugent - Free For All
>
> Paul Mather wrote:
>
> > I was just listening to the Willie Dixon Chess Box Set this evening,
> > and, listening to CD 2, it made me wonder if Willie Dixon
> ever won his
> > lawsuit against Led Zeppelin for their "Whole Lotta Love"
> single? (It
> > bears *more* than a passing resemblance to the song he
> wrote for Muddy
> > Waters, called "You Need Love.")
> >
> > Actually, Zeppelin appear to have covered quite a few of
> Dixon's songs:
> > "You Shook Me," "Bring It On Home" (on-topic HW reference:), and "I
> > Can't Quit You Baby." (I notice they don't credit him on
> "Bring It On
> > Home," at least not on the copy of _Led Zeppelin II_ I have to hand.
> > Tsk, tsk, shame on them...)
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Paul.
> >
> > ob2CD: Willie Dixon, _The Chess Box_
> >
> > e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu
> >
> > "I didn't mean to take up all your sweet time"
> > --- James Marshall Hendrix
>
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