No Lonesome Dope after all!

ANDREW GARIBALDI andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM
Fri Nov 3 17:23:56 EST 2000


has everyone got the legendary Tim Leary and Ash Ra Tempel supersession
album 'Seven Up' - now there's a drugged up session for you - I've got a
load of stuff on the making of that album somewhere in the archives.
Still a weird album to this day.....
Andy G'b
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Blackman" <michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU>
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Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: No Lonesome Dope after all!


> > Speaking of Leary: I believe the Hawks met some of his 'people' while
they
> were on a US tour in the 70s, at the time he was languishing in jail. I
> remember reading about a mad scheme to free him which would have
>
>
> My wife wrote to Tim Leary when he was in jail and he wrote a really nice
> letter back to her.  (she still has it) Sounds like a really interesting
> character.
>
> ( I say 'sounds' in the present tense because I don't believe in the
> finality of
> 'Death' - )
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Nick Medford <nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK>
> To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 6:23 AM
> Subject: Re: No Lonesome Dope after all!
>
>
> > In message <200011021630.QAA03040 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk>, M Holmes
> > <fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK> writes
> > >
> > >What's intriguing is that there do seem to be certain hallucinatory
> > >images which are consistent across cultures and are even independent of
> > >the means used to induce the state (priests used to whip themselves and
> > >then wear hairshirts in order to make the wounds go septic; Jesus
> > >starved himself; others avoided sleep - it just makes you so proud
> > >science has made it as easy as taking a pill :-)
> > >
> > >Leary was probably onto something when he said that it indicated
> > >something about basic neuronal wiring, but boy did he ever run with
that
> > >ball.
> > >
> > >
> > >FoFP
> >
> > Don't know if you saw the recent BBC prog on prehistoric shamans:
certain
> > criss-cross patterns found in cave paintings are now thought (by some,
> > probably not all, archaeologists) to be records of visual hallucinations
> > experienced in shamanic trance states. Very similar hallucinatory
patterns
> > are reported by old folk who's visual cortex is degenerating. Of course
> this
> > doesn't prove that the cave paintings represent hallucinations but it's
an
> > interesting idea.
> >
> > Leary: agreed, he stretched a little inspiration an awfully long way.
> >
> > Speaking of Leary: I believe the Hawks met some of his 'people' while
they
> > were on a US tour in the 70s, at the time he was languishing in jail. I
> > remember reading about a mad scheme to free him which would have
> > involved a silver helicopter covered in strobes and speakers- to make
the
> > jailers think he was being carried off by a UFO, y'see.... obvious
really,
> can't
> > imagine why the plan wasn't enacted. Anyway the music emanating from
> > the speakers was to be none other than Hawkwind. Think this story was in
> > the "Do Not Panic" book which I sadly lost after lending it to the wrong
> > person (i.e. someone I never saw again).
> >
> > Fairly sure I heard DB say something about Leary just after they played
> > Orgone Accumulator in Brixton. However the Accumulator wasn't Leary's
> > idea, it was the brainchild of Wilhelm Reich (as Nik Turner correctly
> > announces at the start of Undisclosed Files), although Leary may well
have
> > been an admirer of Reich- there were many parallels between them. FWIW
> > I think they were both eccentrics with fascinating but ultimately
> untenable
> > ideas. Course that doesn't justify the way they (Reich especially) were
> > persecuted.
> > --
> > Nick Medford



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