napster, hawkwind and mp3's

ANDREW GARIBALDI andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM
Wed Nov 15 18:05:48 EST 2000


Nah - not much I reckon - in a nutshell, we try to offer 'personal service'
first and foremost so we have a huge wadge of people who come on to us for
recommendations, We ask what they like and then recommend stuff to them. By
and large I get it right 9 times out of ten, so they come back for more. If
they ask for something and I don't think they'll like it, I tell them and
there's few others that would turn down a sale like that. That and the
catalogues..........we do OK.
But I digress (as always) - I really do think that Napster harms sales of
techno/trance/dance music but there's so much of it around that no-one's
probably noticed yet, and the younger generation, by and large, tend not to
want to 'collect' or 'own' material CD's the way we used to and still do -
the thrill we used to get out of rummaging around a shop or record fair,they
now get out of downloading  and mp3'ing. To the new generation, computers
are the new rock 'n' roll, like it or not - music is way down the list.
But bearing in mind the fact that kids will get into things that their
parents hate it means that when the current twenty year olds have kids later
on (maybe not so much later on) and then junior brings home a Hawkwind album
to a parent brought up on techno, only to have the parent go 'what's this
crap you're listening to', then - bingo!!! - a new space-rock generation is
spawned.
Andy Garibaldi (with probably the most long-winded answer yet to a question
and showing that, by avoiding the real issue, I should have been a UK
politician)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill & Cynthia" <freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU>
To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 4:26 AM
Subject: Re: napster, hawkwind and mp3's


> More exposure and FREE advertising for the bands! I sometimes see artists
in
> the "Alternative" chatroom pleading for us to download their songs.
> Honestly, I would like to see artists getting royalties from Napster. The
> artists would perhaps make the music available themselves, but I really
> don't know how, as keeping track of it all would be near impossible. It
will
> take time and money to track down royalties owing.
> I wonder what DB and the boys think of Napster?
>
> Cheers
> Bill
> PS - Andy, do you think CD Services are losing sales through Napster?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ANDREW GARIBALDI" <andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
> To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 3:15 AM
> Subject: Re: napster, hawkwind and mp3's
>
>
> > No,
> > I'm not saying Napster doesn't have their uses, and no-one's perfect,
but
> it
> > strikes me that they simply don't care whether something they offer is
> > available or not - why should they worry - it's only the poor artist who
> > suffers after all. I say, do your homework, Napster!!!
> > The idea that Napster leads to more exposure for that artist may well be
> > true but lead to more sales? For unknown acts with nothing to lose,
> perhaps,
> > but my argument is simply for establsihed acts who fall 'victim' to this
> > system (and we're not talking Metallica here)
> > Andy Garibaldi
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bill & Cynthia" <freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU>
> > To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 2:05 AM
> > Subject: Re: napster, hawkwind and mp3's
> >
> >
> > > Andy said:
> > > > errrrr........yes, all very well and good, and I'm not getting into
> the
> > > > Napster argument again, but Sonic Attack and Choose Your Masques and
> the
> > > > Chaos Delight are readily available on CD and so that's another set
of
> > > > royalties for the band and members that they'll never see.........
> > >
> > > Napster has its uses. It's great for downloading music from bands
never
> > > heard of before. Pegasi 51 is an example. I bet their CD sales have
> > improved
> > > since!
> > > And it wont stop me from buying HW and related CD's once they're
> released.
> > > I have been collecting their albums/cd's since 1976 and having mp3's
> just
> > > wouldn't feel right. :-)
> > > Although I must admit I have been trying to download some of Robert
> > Calvert
> > > stuff. Gremlins 1 and 2 for example.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Bill
> >



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