In a message dated 8/3/01 1:15:51 PM, starfield at SUPANET.COM writes: << Ginger played a Ludwig kit with a single bass drum, 4 toms, and a huge Ziljian Gong. >> ======= i saw him once on the tv show 'supersonic' ,alone, playing a solo w/double bass. oy...so now i have to look up some pix w/cream;....