off - lend a hand - off

Mich@el B michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU
Thu Jun 7 12:20:57 EDT 2001


cheers

----- Original Message -----
From: Ben Fagin <benfagin at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK>
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Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 1:20 AM
Subject: Re: off - lend a hand - off


> you can download a fully working copy of the latest nero burning rom
>
> here
>
> www.gulli.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On
> Behalf Of Paul Mather
> Sent: 07 June 2001 14:48
> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU
> Subject: Re: off - lend a hand - off
>
>
> On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Steve Moody wrote:
>
> => Probably the most commonly used software is Adobe Easy CD Creator and
it
> is
> => usually included with the purchase of a cd writer, unfortunately it is
> the
> => minimal version which is quite limited unless you order the full - for
> about
> => $100. My favorite is Digital CD Recording Studio which has all the
> => capabilities of the full version of Adobe, is easier to use and only
cost
> me
> => $10 (got it from a discount software bin at the local Fry's). A little
>
> Sound Forge seems to be the most widely used digital audio editing
> package, in my experience (based on the text files of shows I receive).
> Alas, it is not free, but some CD writers come bundled with stripped
> down versions.  CoolEdit is also widely favoured, mostly because you can
> use it in demo version for free and still get work done if you plan your
> tasks ahead.  (The version I used would only enable two feature sets in
> any given session.)
>
> => more expensive than their IDE counterparts. SCSI cd writers are about
> $300,
> => drives have come down but still around $300 or so, a SCSI controler
> => (Adaptec) is about $200, a SCSI cd rom is about $100 ( I recommend
> Toshiba
> => cd roms and cd writers, they have the best specifications in the
> => industry).
>
> I think these prices are way off now.  I bought my 8x SCSI Yamaha 8824
> CD-RW brand new a year or so ago and it was less than $200.  Similarly,
> a good bus-mastering PCI SCSI controller can be had for way less than
> $200 (even Adaptec!), and can be picked up REALLY cheap if you buy from
> eBay.
>
> In my experience, the names Plextor and Yamaha are always mentioned when
> recommending CD-ROM and CD-R{W} drives.  Almost everyone reckons that
> Plextor make hands down the best SCSI CD-ROM drives, especially for
> digital audio extraction.  Yamaha have a long history in CD-R{W}.
>
> => Also - PC sound cards. The benchmark of PC professional sound
> => cards has been the high end Turtle Beach series  at around $500+ but
> there
> => are now some that are their rivals, the top end Yamaha is rated highly
> and
> => the Layla has gained an incredible following among musicians, its 32
> track
> => virtual mixer and especially its analog simulated sound is supossedly
the
> => best of all, a good friend of mine is a lady drummer who also works at
a
> => major music store chain  introduced me to it and it will be my next
audio
> => card - and is only $300 (it still hurts!). I myself still have a ways
to
> => go - have the SCSI audio/video drives and controller and a decent sound
> => card - Diamond Monster 3 but the remainder of my equipment is IDE. A
> small
> => consolation for all you out there is that the mass produced better
sound
> => cards, Yamaha, Creative Labs, etc are better than the professional
sound
> => cards of just 5 years ago. Hope it helps - Steve The Moonman
>
> The inside of a PC is a terrible, noisy environment (especially now that
> processor clock speeds are crossing the GHz boundary, and other bus
> speeds are in the high tens of MHz: the FCC only stipulate what
> interference is permitted to *leave* the computer case, not what can go
> on inside it:).  For that reason, lots of people serious/anal about
> transferring analogue to digital will utilise an outboard A/D converter
> and then use a digital input on a soundcard to get the data into the
> computer for editing.  Bonus points are to be had for using a soundcard
> that *does not unecessarily resample* its digital input.  One such card
> verified "clean" in this respect is the now-discontinued Zoltrix
> Nightingale, which can be had for <$30 online!  Be aware, though, that
> the Nightingale is only really good for doing digital in (e.g., from a
> DAT deck or an outboard A/D converter): its analogue capabilities are
> poor.  But, as a cheap solution for getting digital sounds onto your
> hard drive, it can't be beaten for price performance.  Of course,
> implicit in this approach is having a good A/D converter somewhere in
> your audio chain that can feed digital out to the digital in of your
> sound card...
>
> DAT-Heads is probably a good place to look for information about sound
> cards and doing transfers to digital.
>
> If you're not particularly worried about sound quality, or the artifacts
> of heavily processing the result, though, then probably any sound card
> will do.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Paul.
>
> PS: Some DDS DAT drives---notably those for SGI---have firmware support
> for reading digital audio from tapes directly, making the DAT > HD route
> fairly easy.  The real trick is to find an inexpensive drive that *has*
> the firmware support. :-(
>
> e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu
>
> "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production
>  deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid."
>         --- Frank Vincent Zappa
>



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