A suggestion :was: From Hawkwind

William Duffy xl5 at IINET.NET.AU
Mon Dec 8 02:07:47 EST 2003


Hi there

I like that idea. I'm not saying I don't like CD, but since DVD's have came
along, I very rarely by a CD title now. Also, CD's seem so much easier to
pirate than DVD's.

I know that with the titles the band have in mind it may be unlikely to go
to the same lengths as other artists, & do a full-blown DVD-Audio, but there
are other possibilities to be had.For a start, they could do up something
fairly simple to accompany the music, such as stills for the band, lyrics,
etc., or even some simple psychedelic video effects. There's also the
possibility of adding the occasional video clip as well?

Even if it is still only enough material to fit on one CD (which they could
do at the same time, & offer one over the other), the possibilities of all
the other additions would not only make things more enticing to collectors,
who would be happy to collect something in that format, even if it is
already part of their CD collection, but it would also be rather unique, as
we don't see too many artists do things such as this on a regular basis.
There is software available that has the capabilities of putting together
DVDs like this, such as WinOnCD DVD Edition.

In many ways, I feel CDs are now becoming obsolete. They still sell, but I
think more & more people are turning to DVDs. It is still possible to put
your average audio CD on DVD, along with a number of interesting extras,
such as a band discography. The only drawback I see is for those who want to
listen to the music in the car or walkman, so another possibility is for a 2
disc set, containing both CD & DVD???

William



----- Original Message -----
From: <chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET>
To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 1:27 PM
Subject: A suggestion :was: From Hawkwind


> Hi ya,
>
> Like others I'm very interested in these CD's but want to know much more
> of what is planned.
>
> I get the impression they will all be soundboard recordings from the
> current tour.  Personally if thats the deal I'd want maybe the best one
> and another one but hard to justify getting all.
>
> If they cover a span of Hawkwind its a different matter.
>
> But I thought about this, what is the best thing for Hawkwind and best
> for us?
>
> Small aside:-
>   I don't like CD I never have liked CD.  I've had a DVD for 2 years.
> In my life I have bought exactly as many music DVD as I have commercial
> CD.  I have 6 music DVD (last of big spenders!!!) I like vynal cause it
> sounds good.  My ears ain't great, but DVD is OK.   CD sucks.  (I never
> fell for the you can hear the birds in the street trick CD salesmen
> tried - since when can you hear birds in the street when your in a sound
> proof recording studio - duh!!!)
>
> I don't think I'm alone in my prejudice, even dvd sales suggest I'm not.
>   So if like 500 of us said "don't give us music cd - give us 48k shn or
> 48k mp2 instead"  Its not putting Hawkwind to any extra trouble and we
> get something better, like in the sense of value thats worth paying for.
>
> But why not take it a step further, spend a day doing a simple 5.1 mix,
> and like give us 5.1 ac3 on a cd.   Production cost of cd is exactly the
> same, Hawkwind is going to sound great in 5.1 without too much effort.
> Hawkwind get credit for doing hi-tech hi-quality ground breaking
> marketing.   We get stuff that sounds cool:-)
>
> I have a feeling if something were done that way there would be _much_
> greater interest than there already is.   Its a 'turn on' not a 'turn
> off' to go away from music cd standard and try something better, which
> should also have a pay off with more official releases.
>
> The audio CD is going to die soon.  Already there is an unofficial DVD
> standard used (only???) for classical music that is 96k audio and gives
> 1 frame of video (ie a title) for each track (anyone with details of
> standard please contact me).
>
> So Hawkwind fans could be used as guinea pigs to try out different ways
> of marketing music.
>
> If it turns out production costs of limited edition dvd is about the
> same as for cd then why not give us 96k multichannel dreamscape void to
> hallucinate in?
>
> Chris
>
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