HW: WOTEOT

Ben Fagin vulcanfoundry at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK
Wed Mar 5 20:44:08 EST 2003


I couldnt agree more!

Come on Hawkwind Management get you're Master Tapes in order.

I sent my Earthed to the Ground LP  to Rob Ayling for re-mastering and nich
heard since. You're [Hawkwind Management] throwing away money.


On Thursday 06 Mar 2003 01:15, you wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I know a few of you expressed interest in my mate's copy of Warrior.  Just
> to let you know he's sold it for forty quid on Amazon.
>
> He's asked me to say thanks for the interest and all that - and if there's
> anyone who wanted it just for its musical qualities, he's ripped it out to
> MP3.  So, as WOTEOT is deleted, anyone who wants it contact me, and I'll
> put you in touch with Sean.
>
> I think this is an aposite moment to discuss MP3s and rips of CDs. (and it
> might avoid some shouty matches on the list)
>
> Bear with me on this...
>
> We're all agreed that selling bootlegs is a *bad thing*.
>
> Most of us agree that trading bootlegs is a *good thing*
>
> When we say "bootlegs", we mean "recordings of Hawkwind (or other band -
> for now I'll just say Hawkwind, but you know what I'm getting at) which are
> not commercially available, but have been recorded by some bloke with a
> condenser mic or recorded by bribing the bloke on the sound desk".
>
> (I've just fired up BBC 6 Music (www.bbc.co.uk/6music) and they're
> advertising Motorhead!!!!  1am GMT, 6/3/03)
>
> Now, this is an interesting one.  WOTEOT has been released twice, and
> deleted twice.  If your mate offered you an MP3 copy of it, on a cheap 18p
> CD for the price of a pint - not because it cost him the price of a pint
> (to our American Friends - a pint is TWENTY fluid ounces - but that's by
> the by) but because he wanted to give you this great music, does that make
> it pirated, bootleg or illegal?
>
> I know full well that it's both pirated *AND* illegal, but my point is
> this...  (I'm probably not making myself clear here)
>
> If an album is deleted (as WOTEOT is), and you want to hear it, and your
> mate owns a copy, is it immoral for him to tape (or CD) it and give you a
> copy knowing full well that you're going to keep it?
>
> My view is that if the thing's deleted, then there's no way you could get a
> copy that would give the band any profit, so - go for it, with the thought
> in the back of your hed that if you ever see that CD with that gorgeous
> pink and blue Rodney Matthews cover, then you'll buy it.
>
> So if anyone wants the sounds of WOTEOT (rather than the full package!),
> drop me a line and I'll put you in touch with Sean who can provide you with
> a copy of Warrior - but not the original any more.
>
> So, now he's sold it, is forty quid for the Dojo version a good price (for
> him!)?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Rich.



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