HW: Free Hawkfest CD Giveaway (but be quick)

[Dave Law]

On Wed, 14 May 2003 12:01:17 +0100, OS-NET <admin at SHROPS.NET> wrote:

>Hi All...
>
>I agree with Colin, I have tickets 2 and 3 for the hawkfest one being my
>Wifes, therefore I would gladly give the other copy I will recieve to any
>HawkFan who wants it.
>
>Pete
>www.budgie.uk.com
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Colin J Allen" <colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK>
>To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 10:58 PM
>Subject: Re: HW: Free Hawkfest CD Giveaway (but be quick)
>
>
>> The CD is a very limited edition and will not be for sale; to put it on
>sale
>> would break the agreement that we have with the featured bands.
>>
>> However, there may be a way that those not among the first 500 ticket
>buyers
>> can hope to obtain a copy:
>>
>> The CDs are being issued to holders of the first 500 Hawkfest tickets;
as
>> some of those lucky people may be partners or children of fans, it is
>> apparent that some families may end up with 2 or more CDs.  Therefore,
>there
>> may be an opportunity for redistribution of CDs among fans.  Now, as
these
>> CDs are being given away free, would it not be nice for those who end up
>> with spare copies to offer them to others free of charge, thus
maintaining
>> the original ethos.
>>
>> Colin
>>
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Filip Vanhuyse" <Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE>
>> To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 7:48 AM
>> Subject: Re: HW: Free Hawkfest CD Giveaway (but be quick)
>>
>>
>> > Yes I'm with Mike.
>> > I can't go to the festival due to work.
>> > So,Dave,Kris,Colin,How do I get the cd???
>> >
>> > greetings
>> > filip
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "M Holmes" <fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK>
>> > To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>> > Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 7:08 PM
>> > Subject: Re: HW: Free Hawkfest CD Giveaway (but be quick)
>> >
>> >
>> > > Paul Mather writes:
>> > >
>> > > > On Sat, May 10, 2003 at 01:04:43PM -0400, Rik Rx wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > => + ++ +STAR WARRIORS + ++
>> > > > =>
>> > > > => The buyers of the first 500 Hawkfest tickets will be eligable
for
>a
>> > FREE
>> > > > => exclusive LIMITED EDITION cd, which
>> > > > => will *not* be available for sale in this format.
>> > > >
>> > > > That reads like a lesson straight out of "How to Make the
Kollectors
>> > > > Mad 101." ;-)
>> > >
>> > > Yep. There's a key misunderstanding of the fan base evident in this
>> > > scheme and I thought something would have been learned from the
>previous
>> > > roastings received by these schemes.
>> > >
>> > > OK, I assume there's an economic incentive for the band to want to
get
>> > > piles of 50 quid notes accrued, to wit: starting to get contracts
>signed
>> > > for the festival.  The logic that this be translated into incentives
>for
>> > > the fans to send in 50 quid notes faster (than other fans
presumably)
>is
>> > > excellent economics. However, in that it's known that a certain
>element
>> > > of the hard core fans are Kollectors this is bound to cause trouble
>> > > since there are always going to be some who can't get to the
festival
>> > > due to other commitments. They could always of course do what I did
>for
>> > > the London party with the free CD, which was to get a ticket and
just
>> > > not go. The two problems with this here are:
>> > >
>> > > A) 50 quid is quite a premium to ask even a diehard Kollector to pay
>for
>> > > a rare CD. We're not made of money, particularly after a spot of
>> > > Kollecting.
>> > >
>> > > B) Attendance at the gig is apparently also required to obtain said
>CD.
>> > >
>> > > I hate to be impolite to the band about this. After all, they are
>> > > organising the festival and this is basically a free gift. I do wish
>> > > though that a little consideration were put into these schemes based
>on
>> > > what's known about the fanbase. It'd save tears and unnecessary bad
>> > > feeling.
>> > >
>> > > Now I reckon Colin will get right back here and say "OK Mike you
>> > > smartassed bastard (or words to that effect) tell us what *YOU*
would
>do
>> > > goven that we want the spondulies in pretty quickly and that means
>> > > motivating the fans who *are* coming to the ball."
>> > >
>> > > In order to save Colin some finger wear, I'll answer this question
>right
>> > > now, and *please* pass it on to Kris and Dave for their perusal,
with
>> > > the reasoning above:
>> > >
>> > > I would offer these CD's free to the first 500 folks who order
>tickets,
>> > > and for sale to any other passport holders who want them, so long as
>> > > they register for them by the time of the Hawkfest. It might also
>> > > increase passport numbers and thus the size of the direct mailing
>list.
>> > >
>> > > As a punishment for thinking up the original scheme, I'd also give
the
>> > > band 500 lines (in this universe finger wear is conserved): their
>> > > signatures on the first 500 CD's.  I suspect this would get the
moolah
>> > > flowing in at a considerable rate as rare CD's which are signed are
>> > > veritably as beer to a thirsty man where Kollectors are concerned.
>> > >
>> > > Of course, to really hurt the Kollectors, you could have the band
>> > > members individually sign a bunch each and then we'd have to get a
CD
>> > > for each member of the band. This might cause problems though when
>beer
>> > > sales crash at the festival because despite seven of me buying
>tickets,
>> > > only one of me turns up...
>> > >
>> > > FoFP
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >

i'll have it then!!

sorry could'nt resist it
all the best
dave