HW: Various

Michael "AlIeN dReAm" Blackman michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU
Fri Jul 2 18:52:28 EDT 2004


I would have liked to have spent a weekend at Dr Leary's pad man ha-ha


----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim" <ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET>
To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 7:24 AM
Subject: Re: HW: Various


> And from what I remember, most of the $10/oz. pot we bought in the early
70s was
> homegrown and probably not very strong(though strong enough!). It wasn't
until it was imported in vast quantities from foreign lands that it was bred
for quality & potency.
> Michael \"AlIeN dReAm\" Blackman wrote:
>  >
>  > Especially the shit that is passed off as LSD these days.  Which -
btw -
>  > there really is very little real LSD anymore.  The cost of setting up a
lab
>  > that is as sterile and hygienic as is required (and keeping it secret)
>  > forces most people to just make garbage from all sorts of poisons.  Not
the
>  > REAL DEAL.  Give it a miss.
>  >
>  >
>  > ----- Original Message -----
>  > From: "M Holmes" <fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK>
>  > To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
>  > Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 10:11 PM
>  > Subject: Re: HW: Various
>  >
>  >
>  > > HawkFan writes:
>  > >
>  > > > I know people who took LSD regularly and seem to have survived with
>  > > > relatively untwisted personalities. I suspect Syd Barrett was
always a
>  > bit
>  > > > strange. Maybe the LSD pushed him off the edge and maybe he would
have
>  > > > fallen off anyway.
>  > >
>  > > Sure.  As I said, about 3% of the population can be regarded as
>  > > pre-schizophrenic and LSD is one of the things that can tip those
people
>  > > over the edge.  While personal and family history, and to an extent
>  > > psychological testing, can give a little insight into whether one is
in
>  > > the 3% or the 97%, it's not an edge anyone would actually want to
fall
>  > > over.  A lifetime on antipsychotic drugs, or sliding down the social
>  > > sxale due to mental illness, is a huge price to pay for a little
mental
>  > > recreation.  OTOH, if I broke my neck skiing, pretty much the same
would
>  > > apply.
>  > >
>  > > What's been interesting recently is that there's been a moral panic
due to
>  > > some research claims that regular use of strong cannabis can induce
>  > > similar effects. It's appeared in the press as "Cannabis Psychosis"
>  > > stories involving "super skunk" and "marijuana ten times as strong as
>  > > their parents used in the 60's". It doesn't seem to be hard to find
>  > > doctors who'll say that the incidence of admission for this reason is
up,
>  > > and it wouldn't be exactly easy to compare the strength of cannabis
now
>  > > to 40 years ago. I expect there'll be a few more moral panics on this
one
>  > > until the research jury comes in.
>  > >
>  > > Then again, it turned out that the "Ecstasy swiss-cheeses your brain"
>  > > researchers had been unknowingly testing speed all along. We'll
probably
>  > > just have to wait a decade to see whether the 20 year olds using
ecstasy
>  > > in the 90's turn out to be miserable 40 year olds.
>  > >
>  > > To be fair to researchers though, the 50 year study into doctors and
>  > > smoking is one hell of a piece of work. I doubt even FOREST could
argue
>  > > with a straight face that it's not bad for you, and passive smoking
>  > > looks to be worse than previously thought too. I'm geting optimistic
>  > > that a public ban on smoking is close to arrival in Scotland. It'd be
>  > > good to get my favourite drug without breathing other people's
poisons.
>  > >
>  > > FoFP
>  > >
>



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