A fun read...and with both BOC and HW content natch... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_metal_umlaut But how could they ignore Grotus, with umlauts over each of the four consonants, but none over the two vowels? Grakkl (FAA) P.S. Welcome back to both Carl Edlundh and David (I remember talking to you at the Limelight '95 was it?)!