Off: pop up killer software

John Majka jmajk at INDY.RR.COM
Wed Mar 17 22:16:41 EST 2004


I would have to agree with this sentiment.  There are lots of computer dorks
out there insisting on this or that browser, but you can only use those if
you have loads of computer knowledge--"user friendly" isn't something
considered in the least by these applications, which is exactly why they are
marginalized and used only by those more or less in the computer field...
few others can use or understand them.  I would prefer to use IE which for
my purposes is a completely straight-forward browser that gets the job done.
john majka
jmajk at indy.rr.com


> Oh buggrit, here we go again.
>
> As a web developer, what standards do I develop for?  WWW standards
> compliant browsers (ha!) or IE?  Given that less than 5% of users use
non-IE
> browsers - and, to quote Mr Dillon, "5% isn't significant, 5% is an error
> margin"
>
> I can either do what's morally right (develop to standards), or I can
> develop what 96% (in reality around 99.2% when it comes to sites I've
worked
> on recently) of users can use.
>
> No contest.
>
> And don't tell me that you can develop complex, stylesheeted sites for IE
> that work perfectly well in Mozilla (Standards compliant my ar5e) based
> browsers, because there are significant differences between the
> implementations of CSS.  As evidence, I give you the "padding" attribute.
>
> Right - my point has been made.  I'll develop for my users, and frankly,
> that means developing for IE.  Yes, there are browser alternatives to IE,
> some of them very good, but a) none of them are a patch on IE, and b) From
> my point of view, they should all die, horribly.  I want one browser that
> all users have got. So I'm happy to go with IE.  Sorry and all that.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Rich.
>
> ps. For those who insist on using browsers other than IE while still using
a
> Windows machine, I present Netscape as evidence that YOU'RE WRONG.  Can
> anyone tell me how you spell "Backward Compatibility"?
>
> pps. Mind you, probably not round here.  (See spelling / rants passim)
>
> * Without browser rants to decorate it, life on a mailing list inhabited
by
> pedants, hardware geeks and web developers is a pointless waste of time. *
> * That's why we're here. *
>
> >
> > => The Google toolbar effectively blocks pop-ups while using MSIE.
> > => Over 550 ads blocked so far.
> >
> > That's cool, so long as you don't mind running spyware on your system
> > (http://www.google-watch.org/bigbro.html, item 6)... >;-)
> >
> > Sure, there are lots of add-ons and plugins for M$IE for blocking
> > pop-ups.  My point was that there are also browser alternatives that
> > have this functionality as a built-in, designed feature.
> >
> > Unfortunately, some WWW sites are implemented such that using
> > something other than M$IE is not an option... :-(
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Paul.
> >
> > PS: The browser I use a lot (links -g) even has a built-in pop-up
> > blocker!
> >
> > e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu
> >
> > "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production
> >  deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid."
> >         --- Frank Vincent Zappa
> >



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