Off: pop up killer software

[Richard Lockwood]

Wahey!  Someone who agrees with me on this one.  (Apologies for the "Mr
Dillon" reference - I forgot which mailing list I was posting to!)  :-)  (I
thought I was posting to Technique and Ferret (the virtual pub for techy
types), not BOC-L!)

Cheers,

Rich.



> I would have to agree with this sentiment.  There are lots of computer
dorks
> out there insisting on this or that browser, but you can only use those if
> you have loads of computer knowledge--"user friendly" isn't something
> considered in the least by these applications, which is exactly why they
are
> marginalized and used only by those more or less in the computer field...
> few others can use or understand them.  I would prefer to use IE which for
> my purposes is a completely straight-forward browser that gets the job
done.
> john majka
> jmajk at indy.rr.com
>
>
> > Oh buggrit, here we go again.
> >
> > As a web developer, what standards do I develop for?  WWW standards
> > compliant browsers (ha!) or IE?  Given that less than 5% of users use
> non-IE
> > browsers - and, to quote Mr Dillon, "5% isn't significant, 5% is an
error
> > margin"
> >
> > I can either do what's morally right (develop to standards), or I can
> > develop what 96% (in reality around 99.2% when it comes to sites I've
> worked
> > on recently) of users can use.
> >
> > No contest.
> >
> > And don't tell me that you can develop complex, stylesheeted sites for
IE
> > that work perfectly well in Mozilla (Standards compliant my ar5e) based
> > browsers, because there are significant differences between the
> > implementations of CSS.  As evidence, I give you the "padding"
attribute.
> >
> > Right - my point has been made.  I'll develop for my users, and frankly,
> > that means developing for IE.  Yes, there are browser alternatives to
IE,
> > some of them very good, but a) none of them are a patch on IE, and b)
From
> > my point of view, they should all die, horribly.  I want one browser
that
> > all users have got. So I'm happy to go with IE.  Sorry and all that.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Rich.
> >
> > ps. For those who insist on using browsers other than IE while still
using
> a
> > Windows machine, I present Netscape as evidence that YOU'RE WRONG.  Can
> > anyone tell me how you spell "Backward Compatibility"?
> >
> > pps. Mind you, probably not round here.  (See spelling / rants passim)
> >
> > * Without browser rants to decorate it, life on a mailing list inhabited
> by
> > pedants, hardware geeks and web developers is a pointless waste of time.
*
> > * That's why we're here. *
> >
> > >
> > > => The Google toolbar effectively blocks pop-ups while using MSIE.
> > > => Over 550 ads blocked so far.
> > >
> > > That's cool, so long as you don't mind running spyware on your system
> > > (http://www.google-watch.org/bigbro.html, item 6)... >;-)
> > >
> > > Sure, there are lots of add-ons and plugins for M$IE for blocking
> > > pop-ups.  My point was that there are also browser alternatives that
> > > have this functionality as a built-in, designed feature.
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, some WWW sites are implemented such that using
> > > something other than M$IE is not an option... :-(
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Paul.
> > >
> > > PS: The browser I use a lot (links -g) even has a built-in pop-up
> > > blocker!
> > >
> > > e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu
> > >
> > > "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring
production
> > >  deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid."
> > >         --- Frank Vincent Zappa
> > >
>