In a message dated 8/17/2005 5:43:54 AM US Eastern Standard Time, fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: It's a shame it wasn't a promo of The Iron Dream, because then I could mention Hitler and kill the discussion. Kill with Stukas or panzers? Hang around, Andrew. There's tides of bitchyness oncet in a while, but it blows over. Joe