How to capture the Roadburn Festival webcast to disk

pete howe sunboxhouse at HOTMAIL.COM
Wed May 24 07:34:08 EDT 2006


Well, the hawkwind management team have commented in agreement now..and 
quite rightly, ..it looks like they wont be doing it again..
      :-/

>From: Carl Edlund Anderson <cea at CARLAZ.COM>
>Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
>Subject: Re: How to capture the Roadburn Festival webcast to disk
>Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 12:21:28 +0100
>
>On 24/05/2006 08:37, pete howe wrote:
>>Yes,i find it a little ironic,after weeks of debating the best possible 
>>way to get THIS FREE onto your cd/ipod/mp3 blah blah..note that this 
>>excellent performance wasnt INTENDED for FREE download,especially as the 
>>hawks are RELEASING THE WHOLE PERFORMANCE...OFFICIALLY.. on cd 
>>shortly.They state quite clearly on their website about free 
>>downloading/bootlegging/unofficial recording etc, and all you guys 
>>generally agreed on the ethics of this some months back..,as the band 
>>DOES, at the end of the day, have to make money .., and theres certainly 
>>no "download free here" button, because it wasnt intended to be...
>>I enjoy going to the site and listening to it..but as it cuts off halfway 
>>through Hassan I Sahba..I think i'll show Dave and the guys some 
>>respect,and wait and cough up the money when it comes out OFFICIALLY...
>
>Well, I absolutely encourage a CD-quality release of this concert 
>(hopefully full length since I understand the stream cuts off).  And I 
>would happily buy a CD or -- better still for myself and the band -- a FLAC 
>download.  But I see nothing wrong with trying to listen to the *free* 
>non-CD quality version in the way which best suits *me*.
>
>I mean, honestly: I thoroughly understand the sentiments of concern for the 
>band.  And seriously: My felicitations to all ye who find it easy and 
>convenient to listen to the 74 minute stream.  That's great.  I'm gladdened 
>that people have that opportunity
>
>But it doesn't really work out for me, and I don't see why I shouldn't be 
>able to listen to something that is, after all, freely available in the 
>manner of *my* choice.  Sure, it's intended to stream; but is there a 
>license or something somewhere saying "You may only listen to this music if 
>you're willing to grind it through your internet connection for an hour or 
>so at a go?"  If there is, then fine, very well; I'll cease and desist.  
>But such conditions would do little to encourage me to a) listen to the 
>free version b) buy the full quality release.  Surely both those things 
>are, to greater or lesser extents, in the band's interest?
>
>I like Hawkwind.  I have bought a lot of Hawkwind recordings.  The band in 
>its various incarnations and many of its musicians have been a powerful 
>musical inspiration to me for many years.  Hawkwind says they'll release 
>this concert at CD quality and (you'll have to forgive me for not believing 
>*everything* the band says about its release plans without reservation ;) I 
>hope I have the opporuntity to buy it in a sensible manner.  Until then, I 
>just hope to be able to listen to the free version (which I am grateful to 
>the band for providing) in some way, at all.
>
> > I just hope i dont see "Roadburn Festival cd-(most of)" on EBAY shortly 
>;-)
>
>There are lots of bands that permit audience taping but also sell their own 
>high-quality live releases via download (not to mention their studio 
>recordings on CD and download).  I don't recall seeing, for example, lots 
>of illegal Gov't Mule CDs on eBay.  Isn't it pretty much established that 
>if you make things available to people legitmately reasonably then they'll 
>go for it?  Why would anyone buy an illegal copy if they could get the real 
>thing easier (and better)?  Where are my 2 CDs worth of totally legitmate 
>"Hawkwind @ Roadburn 2006" FLAC downloads from hawktracks.com for USD 15?  
>Point me to it; I'll buy it!
>
>Cheers,
>Carl
>
>--
>Carl Edlund Anderson
>mailto:cea at carlaz.com
>http://www.carlaz.com/

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