HW: Welcome to the Future

mike coleman insect.brain at GMAIL.COM
Wed Jun 11 09:13:33 EDT 2008


(Angels Of Life) whatever the difference may be from the weird tape to the
CD version, which is much longer, the WTTF version would appear to be a lift
from the Weird CD 101, both clocking at 5:14.....(not counting their musical
beginnings on Magu, the previous track
now about that earthed to the ground 2CD.......


On 6/8/08, Steve Youles <youless at cox.net> wrote:
>
> Taking Jon's questions in reverse order...
>
> I just A/B listened to the version on the Welcome To The Future comp, which
> the Codex accounts as 1L, along with that found on 'Silver Machine'
> (Hallmark
> compilation) which is claimed to be 1aL.
>
> They may well be different mixes.  The WTTF version has a much hotter audio
> signal so I was hearing more detail as a result, but I am sure both of
> these are
> from the same performance, because of the melodies played on the wibbly
> keyboard parts that sound rather flute-like.  However the 1aL version fades
> out on Brock's vocals where the one on WTTF continues on (and on)
> eventually getting to some Bob Calvert ranting.  In that sense, the oft-
> compiled version 1aL is definitely cut by comparison with WTTF's 1L.
>
> (I wonder if the hotter signal on 1L indicates it's a desk recording, with
> the
> dingier-sounding 1aL being an audience recording? That would certainly be
> consistent with apparently different mixes...)
>
> Re: Cake Out or Hash Cake '77 as it is often called... Although WTTF's
> sleeve
> notes claim this is from Stonehenge 77, I have an audience recording of
> that
> performance and it's not included.  As with 'Slap It On Der Table' and
> Watchfield, I think it has become erroneously associated with a particular
> free
> festival because it first saw light of day on the old "Hawkwind Live at
> Stonehenge and Watchfield" vinyl bootleg album.
>
> Both sound like rehearsal room / recording studio jams to me. FWIW.
>
> Steve
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> On Sat, 31 May 2008 18:24:12 +0100, Jonathan Jarrett
> <jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK> wrote:
>
> >       Dear All,
> >                 a little while ago I picked up a 2CD comp called this,
> >because it united a load of Weird Tapes and extra material I'd never
> >managed to pick up. I see that the Codex knows of it, but for others
> >I'll just say that it has the Watchfield Festival triplet, most of the
> >set from _Atomhenge 76_ (lacking only `Uncle Sam's on Mars' and `Time
> >for Sale', which is just as well I suppose because otherwise I'd have a
> >redundant CD), and on disc 2 the Stonehenge 1977 and Sonic Assassins
> >sets. Several of these things I'd never heard before, and so I wondered
> >if people could answer what may be some pretty basic questions.
> >
> >       Firstly, what on earth is `Slap It On The Table'? It's not a
> >live track at all, is it? How did it get lumped with the Watchfield
> >stuff?
> >
> >       Secondly, is `Cake Out' genuinely part of the Stonehenge set? It
> >doesn't sound like the same mix to me but it's hard to be sure, and of
> >course it might not be the same mix and still be from the same original
> >tape.
> >
> >       Thirdly, how on earth did the original, as I assume this is,
> >recording of the Sonic Assassins `Angels of Life', codex # 1L, get
> >turned into the one we know from infinite comps, codex ' 1aL? The codex
> >says the latter is a cut, but it's more than that surely, the guitar and
> >keyboard balance is quite different in the `Angels' section, and some of
> >the vocals are too; is this is just editing? Wow. And who bothered, and
> >why?
> >
> >       I suppose the answers to these may not be known, but equally
> >maybe they are and I just always missed them before because of not
> >having heard the right bits... Grateful for any answers, yours,
> >
>        Jon
> >
> >
> >ObCD: Love - _Comes in Colours_
> >--
> >"When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?"
> >           (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206)
> > Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk
>



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