OFF but more off\: UK's premier green awareness festival under threat from police and local council.

[mike coleman]

I am not intending to offend anybody, simply pushing a radical opinion past
the brink
I don't much like the human race, but I do like the people on this forum
(where I don't have too actually see anything humanly offensive),  so there
is a reason for life to exist
Now please do something about the USA besides destroy it........change it
change it change it


On 8/5/09, mike coleman <insect.brain at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> and, global "whining" aside, whats so wonderful about people that even one
> more should be allowed birth much less all the cement replacing green things
> and wildlife?
> go into space? wow
> everybody rushing back and forth but going exactly where??  to do what??
> (again from a usa perspective) one need look no further than the michael
> jackson coverage or say the "octuplet lady" getting a reality TV show to see
> why the public does not deserve to continue
> the PUBLIC is to BLAME for eating what it has ben fed (and making more of
> their stupid selves)
>
>
>
> On 8/5/09, mike coleman <insect.brain at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> If uncle scam is just going to hoard the recovered alien technology all to
>> itself (free energy amidst that), I say life is made hell by human beings
>> anyway and let the cultures who breed like rabbits overpopulate themselves
>> into infinity and wrigle and writhe working harder and harder and harder to
>> survive in hell
>> no need to keep up
>> I for one will travel elsewhere by nature of the beast
>> life stinks (from a USA perspective, fair enough?), because everything is
>> fake, controlled, human greed, etc etc
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/5/09, M Holmes <fofp at holyrood.ed.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> Jonathan Jarrett writes:
>>>
>>> > On Wed, 29 Jul 2009, M Holmes wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > I'd love to hear how we caused global warming on Mars and Titan...
>>> > >
>>> > > *Some* of it may be linked to human activity. What we don't know is
>>> > > whether that amounts to even most of it.
>>> >
>>> >       Not, of course, that that removes the urgency of doing something
>>> > about it... A five-degree rise in temperature could make things very
>>> > uncomfortable for us whether we caused it or not.
>>>
>>> I've always thought that it isn't a good idea to shit in your backyard.
>>> It's going to sooner or later bite you somehow. There's always a silver
>>> lining though: maybe it'll delay the next ice age for a while - those
>>> babies really *are* hard to stop.
>>>
>>> > But this, and Mike C.'s
>>> > suggested population culls, are all targeting the wrong places. Our
>>> > consumption in the US and Europe is pretty appallingly high
>>>
>>> Huh? What makes any particular level of consumption "high"? Comparison
>>> with others? Compared to our ancestors of a few hundred years ago, the
>>> consumption of 99% of the world is extremely high.
>>>
>>> I'm skeptical of arguments that we all have to wear hairshirts, give up
>>> economic growth, or otherwise live in the dark. We have intelligence, so
>>> let's fix things so that we can have all we want, *and* clean up our
>>> mess behind us.
>>>
>>> > but our
>>> > environmental practices, while nowhere near what we might like, are
>>> > globe-leading.
>>>
>>> In fact China produces more pollution and the US. In terms of pollution
>>> caused per Dollar of wealth created, the US is way lower than most of
>>> the world, and *that's* the index we should be looking at if we agree
>>> not to wear hairshirts. It's the fucked up countries who are dirt poor
>>> and yet still have a godawful amount of pollution, that really need
>>> their butts kicked into gear.
>>>
>>> >       No, the real problem is going to be the rest of the world trying
>>> > to have our standard of living. That's going to cause real problems
>>> long
>>> > before Mother Gaia decides it's time for a sweat bath. "So place your
>>> > trust in science, for it has come so far...": I think the only way out
>>> > that's likely is a breakthrough on the energy crisis that allows cheap
>>> and
>>> > renewable energy out to the developing economies.
>>>
>>> Such as solar power satellites or nuclear power (fusion preferably, but
>>> fission will hold the dam in the meantime). The problem is that the
>>> greens themselves are part of the political resistance to this. Green
>>> beliefs have become in large part a religious cult rather than a serious
>>> search for solutions to the problems facing us.
>>>
>>> > And that, unlike halting
>>> > non-anthropogenic climate change, is something we can reasonably hope
>>> to
>>> > achieve in the short term.
>>>
>>> Hey, why non halt that too? If it's too hot, we normally put up a
>>> sunshade. Let's test-deploy solar sails, then scale 'em up and put 'em
>>> out by L1 in the tens of thousands. Build a sunshade for Mother Earth
>>> and stop her getting sunburn. *There's* an idea to rally behind.
>>>
>>> FoFP
>>>
>>> --
>>> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in
>>> Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
>>>
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