HW: Griffin Alien4

SKARSOL skarsol at IX.NETCOM.COM
Wed Jul 3 03:24:22 EDT 1996


Keith A Henderson wrote:
>
> rj hints....
> > >
> > > The Griffin _Alien4_ finally appeared.  It isn't an actual Griffin release,
> > > but is an EBS import with the little sticker that says "distributed by
> > > Griffin music, made in the UK".  It is one of those deals where Griffin
> > > kindly distributes it in the USA at domestic USA prices.
>
> > Brock said at one of the gigs that they are at odds with griffin at
> > present.  It seems that griffin has been underselling them in europe.
>
> I don't know what this means exactly, but whatever it is, it's completely
> asinine.  How the band and it's management gets into such a tiff with a record
> company that (for once) actually does them so much good over many years is
> beyond me.  I'm not saying that I can't possibly believe that they (Griffin)
> might *have* actually done them some small amount of harm in this tactic
> (whatever it is).  It's just that HW has been ripped off by so many
> people/labels in the past to such a huge degree, that anything Griffin
> could/would do additional to that seems like it would be a piss in the ocean.
>
> And like how many discs would they have sold in the US without a stable
> domestic record deal from 1987 - 1996??  About 10% of what they have, that's
> what.  And that's probably equalled by the UK/Europe Kollectors on this list
> who have bought Griffin imports.
>
> Stupid!  26 years on...and counting....there is not enough info to label this as stupid.
1. ebs is hw's own label,and really too young to be strong.what may be
a small issue to a big co. may verywell be crippling to a label this
size.
2.if all this is true,it must have been deliberate on the part of
griffin. i can't imagine it being easy to bypass all those tariffs,
griffin must be taking a loss to do it.if i were hw or their management
i think i would be insulted,as well as injured.
3.it may be that since griffin has caught up w/ hw's catalogue,hw feels
that they would be better off on their own.this may only be a loophole
to help hw cash in on their own efforts.
4.i have no ill-will toward griffin, and as a fan, am grateful for
there efforts.with hw,it's business, and only that.none of us knows
the inner workings of the deal.
5. after 25+ years of being lied to,duped,violated and used,perhaps hw
is finally fed up?
6.after spending a week visiting with the band before and after gigs,and
seeing what these boys are really like,as far as i am concerned,they can
do anything they like.these are some of the kindest men i've ever met.
(i know i sound enamoured,but you would have to have been there.)from
everything i've seen with my own eyes,anyone who calls brock and co.
greedy, is at best- mis-informed.
    cheers,(ohshitthebritshavegotmesayingitnow)
rj



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