HW - tape info

ANDREW GARIBALDI andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM
Sun Nov 4 19:30:04 EST 2001


Hi,
Rooting around the collection today I found this cassette listed as
Snortwind-Oxford New Age Fair 5-6-86 and line-up as Huw LL/Alan Davey/Danny
Thompson and a guy called Grob on keyboards - anyone know who Grob
is???....and what the heck is this Snortwind thing anyway - not something
I've come across before now - your dept, perhaps, Bernard???
Andy G.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Jarrett" <jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK>
To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: OFF: Concert Attendance


> On Wed, 13 Jun 2001, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote:
>
> > There is a virus about - it's called 'poor concert attendance'.
> > Over here in the UK we have always had the idea that the USA events such
as
> > this would pull in more of an audience, but this now seems to be so
rampant
> > a situatiion everywhere.
> > On the electronic music front, an annual event in Holland previously
called
> > Klem, now 'E-live' has been canceleled this year due to poor ticket
sales -
> > 4 years ago they were getting over 1000 people. The partner event, Alpha
> > Centauri, only got 600+ people this year by getting Rick Wakeman to
> > headline. In the UK, you couldn't put on the annual electronic music
> > festivals we used to do without reckoning on around 125 people where it
used
> > to be 300-400+.
> > On the space-rock front, Alan Davey's gigs are getting better attended
but
> > the average audience is rarely into three figures, low even for some of
the
> > small venues played, while Spacehead and Dr Hasbeen havea similar
situation.
> > Yet Hawkwind still do it wherever they go, obviously the known name that
> > people put themselves out for.
> > The theory runs that those of a 'certain age' or income bracket are
either
> > jaundiced of all the small conceerts and only go to big ones - or if
they
> > have to travel distance to the gigs,then the expensive peripherals make
it
> > all too much  - and so on.
> > So, are the up and coming bands, even the known ones, doomed to play to
such
> > small audiences and is there no way of redressing this situation?
> > Just a thought for all...........
>
>         I don't think this is the whole answer but I'm inclined to blame
> the Internet for this. The things is that it's a marvellous tool for
> reaching the people who care about such and such a band. You know where
> all your fans are and so obviously you concentrate your effort there. But
> it's no substitute for getting out there and putting posters up, getting
> people onto venue mailing lists, handing out flyers, because those people
> you reach with the net are *thousands* of miles apart and not many of them
> will go to more than one gig. I think part of the problem is that the net
> *seems* like such a useful publicity tool that people forget to use the
> others. The net should be where people go to get information about an
> event they've heard about, but there's so much of it that the people you
> *need* to reach, the locals who'll just come to see or because it might be
> a laugh and they can always go down the pub instead, the people you
> *can't* rely on to find out by word of mouth, will never stumble across it
> there. They need to walk past a poster by accident.
>
>         Of course fewer people are going to concerts because travel costs
> are going up, and home entertainment is so much better than it used to be
> and so much cheaper than going out; but I'm not sure everyone does
> everything they can to fight this. I've never had the time to do it
> properly myself but I've not seen many other band posters round here
> since... well, the Bedouin gig before the one I organised, which was
> nearly three years ago now. That's my thoughts on the matter, anyway. They
> may not be terribly coherent as I'm falling asleep at the keyboard but
> there you go. Yours,
>                      Jon
>
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> --
>            Jon Jarrett                     "Two men say they're Jesus,
>           (01223 514989)                   One of 'em must be wrong..."
>    jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk              (Mark Knopfler)



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