Once again music gets the blame

Cpt Blue Skin michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU
Wed Jan 8 10:04:29 EST 2003


Spend some time in LA and just watch the news reports.  I would believe that
football kills more students in the us than guns - but are those stats
regarding student gunshot deaths vs football deaths?  I would imagine so.
The stats that I have seen show that there are an alarming number of gunshot
fatalaties in the US.  But then guns are glorified over there as well.
How many movies have you seen where the "good guy" has gotten his revenge by
scoring a weapon and blowing away the "bad guys."

I think there should be better education, starting in school, regarding
firearms.  The laws regarding purchasing firearms should be strict -
background checks - waiting periods - etc and that the police should not
have to waste their resources chasing pot smokers when they could be
directing that energy towards eradicating - or working towards eradicating
black market weapons trade/sales etc.


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Cpt Blue Skin

----- Original Message -----
From: M Holmes <fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK>
To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 11:29 PM
Subject: Re: Once again music gets the blame


> Ted Jackson writes:
>
> > On 6 Jan 2003 at 17:37, M Holmes wrote:
> >
> >
> > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/2631401.stm
> > >
> > > Summary: every time in the past 100 years that gun laws in the UK have
> > > been tightened, gun crime has increased. Politicians need someone to
> > > blame other than themselves and so...
>
> > You'd think the rest of the world would have the sense to learn from
> > the multiple mistakes we Americans have made regarding firearms.
>
> We don't get the chance in the uK. We're constantly lied to concerning
> guns in the uS and since the average citizen here's "ecperience" of US
> gun crime is Hollywood movies, mythmaking is passed off as not only
> fact, but analysis. Otherwise bright people just plain don't believe me
> when I tell them that football kills more students than guns in US
> schools; that the areas of the US with most guns have lower crime rates;
> that the states which relegalised handguns saw crime rates fall rapidly;
> and that Britain has higher violent crime rates than the uS in all but
> homicide and since our murder rates rise while yours fall, we're fast
> headed for the intersect.
>
> Quite why people prefer it this way has me quite baffled. It's almost
> like we'd rather see people raped and killed than admit that Hollywood
> movies aren't true.
>
> > Gun
> > crime increases because the criminals know that there is a smaller
> > likelihood that an honest citizen will now have a gun to defend his
> > house.  And, making guns illegal doesn't stop criminals from getting
> > them, as outlaws already have criminal records and can't buy them
> > legally anyway! So the law doesn't change the procurement means for
> > criminals, just honest folks!
>
> You'd think that'd be as plain as your nose, but none of our politicians
> appear able to understand it.
>
> obHawkwind: It seems almost quaint that they pulled a verse of Right to
> decide concerned with gun crime when you see the fuss about rap music.
>
> FoFP
>



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