HW: Fw: Those Voiceprint bastards Reply

[david hall]

Am I getting some verbal here, or what. Just for the record Complete 79 has
been
blasting, not continuously, out my speakers since the day it dropped onto my
doormat. Live 82 not so much, but still fun to listen to. Yeah, and I'm
looking forward to the Weird releases (I've already posted re the quality of
the
covers), even though I've got them all (I remember sending off to Wolden at
the news of every release)
- some info on the new track listings would be nice. And, again for the
record, I've never knocked VP - you've
put out some good stuff - a lot of it in my record collection.
To include me on your list you must be objecting to my comments on the
production. Well too bad, as much as I enjoy 79 it is let down by the
production. In saying that if it were really awful I'd take back to the shop
for a refund - pronto! Your comments on 82, fair enough. Anyway comments
posted are
in the grand tradition of record buying, remember hanging out with your
mates
and the good record-shite record debates?


Official releases should be of good quality, unless marked otherwise. The
tapes released
by Jonny at GAS are a good example i.e. "the quality will vary due to
source" -it's good stuff too.

I'll give you an example of a howler that shouldn't have been released: Guy
Evans and Peter Hammill
"The Union Chapel Concert" -featuring a one-off reformation of Van der Graaf
Generator (Pawn Hearts -no Nic Potter unfortunately). Now this is an
audience recording, complete with coughs - the performance is rough too.
Fans will buy it because they've waited for years for a reunion, they'll
probably play it once. It could have been released as a limited edition
freebie CD along with Peter's next release. A mate lent this to me with the
description "bag o' shite pal". I'll recommend that he buys Complete 79 but
advise him about the production, that seems alright to me.

I suppose if you're a collector of any band you'll buy just about any
release that the band put out. That leaves them open to rip-off (I'm not
suggesting that here, let's get that clear) , for example the new Led Zep
compilation albeit including a live track on CD rom.

I stopped "collecting" at the release of the final volume of Friends and
Relations, and I'm not interested in bootlegs (except ones of exceptional
quality). All I'm interested in is putting a shiny disc in the machine,
turning up the volume, and having a blast. When Hawkwind are on form they
cannot be surpassed, and I'll rave on to mates about the latest release. If
it's a duffer then it's an extreme disappointment as expectations are high.

I think that's about it.

Dave

Please include me on any Voiceprint mailing list.

-----Original Message-----
From: XXX <boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK>
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Date: 13 December 1999 20:38
Subject: HW: Fw: Those Voiceprint bastards Reply


>----- Original Message -----
>From: Rob (remote) <106230.3257 at compuserve.com>
>To: Hawkwind <boclist at hwind.globalnet.co.uk>
>Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 7:17 PM
>Subject: Those Voiceprint bastards Reply
>
>
>Dear Kris,
>
>thought you might want a quick read of this one . . .
>
>Rob
>
>
>PS      Feel free to post it to the list
>
>
>
>-------------Forwarded Message-----------------
>
>From:   VP-MO, Voiceprint_mailorder
>To:     1, INTERNET:fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK
>
>CC:     2, INTERNET:spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET
>        3, INTERNET:beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM
>        4, INTERNET:m.j.crook at TALK21.COM
>        5, INTERNET:bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE
>        6, INTERNET:dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK
>        7, INTERNET:stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK
>        8, INTERNET:tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU
>        9, INTERNET:sprawl at STARPOWER.NET
>        11, INTERNET:DASLUD at AOL.COM
>
>
>Date:   13/12/99 19:05 PM
>
>RE:     Those Voiceprint bastards Reply
>
>The Bastards Reply . . . .
>
>Dear Hawkfans,
>
>It is with great interest I have read your mail concerning my company. I
>feel there is some basic misconceptions / misunderstandings happen here. In
>this e-mail I hop that this will answer some / if not all the issues you
>have.
>
>Free CD / Stamp system.
>
>The reason you have to cut the booklet up is very simple. A vast majority
>of stores in the UK remove inserted "bounce back" / "reply cards" from CDs
>they fear that we will approach you directly with some fantastic offers and
>cut the shop out. We may well do that, but equally so we may not. But
>imagine how you great and dedicated fans would feel if some of you got the
>cards with the coupons on and some did not. I know how I would feel ! !
>
>The reason we dont accept photocopy coupons. Is simple we are a very small
>company and photocopies would be open to fraud. I know nine out of ten fans
>wouldnt do this but we have had problems with previous offers.
>
>Also it is worth noting it is on a third flap. This can easily be removed
>with out damaging the booklet / artwork.
>
>The idea of the FREE CD is so that you the collectors get some thing back
>for your money and loyalty of buying this series of CDs. How many of you
>bought the releases on Castle Communications PLC. just for the different
>cover ? What did they give you in return ? (answers on a post card to
>Voiceprint at the usual address).
>
>Greasy Truckers Party
>
>EMI requested that we do not issue this recording on CD as they own the
>copyright.
>
>Glastonbury 90.
>
>This is the Tape that Dave gave me personally and asked to be issued on CD.
>I guess he was fed up with bootleg issues of this gig.
>
>Live 82.
>
>Edits were conducted under Daves supervision. He requested sections to be
>removed for artistic reasons. Dave as the leader of the band has a complete
>veto on ANYTHING we issue. I am beholden to him to ensure he is 100% happy
>with the releases.
>
>Distribution.
>
>ALL Voiceprint products are available in most UK shops. If you cant find it
>there it is the shop who has refused to stock the CD. NOT us to ship the CD
>to them. (please allow for the occasional out of stocks).
>
>It is our job to sell as many CDs as possible in order to pay the best
>royalties to the band so they can keep producing the music we all know and
>love.
>
>Further to the plan to give to loyal fans a good deal. You can buy the
>Hawkwind CDs single at 9.99 GBP each (three for 25.00 GBP) or doubles at
>15.00 GBP (three for 40.00 GBP). From Voiceprint Mail Order, please email
>me at this address with your snail mail details so we can post you a
>leaflet.
>
>The Hawkwind titles will be distributed in the US during Y2K.
>
>Conclusion.
>
>So you think we are bastards then. I am a dedicated Hawk fan. I have been
>so for nearly twenty years now (yes a new comer to some of you, but my
>parents didnt get it together earlier). I have watched year after year at
>the same tracks coming out in a different sequence with a different cover,
>not authorized by the band and I was fed up with it. So I am in the lucky
>enough position to be able to do some thing about it (i.e. owning a record
>company). So now we are doing what I (and the band) consider interesting
>issues on CD at a fair price and with interesting artwork and all you lot
>do is MOAN ! !
>
>So OK.
>
>1).     Lets shelve;-  Atomhenge - Live 76,
>
>2).     Why dont you stick to listening to cassette versions of the Weird
>Tapes instead of digitally re-mastered versions CDs, with new artwork and
>credits ?
>
>3).     Lets not bother with a free CD to all you people have baought the
>set. Then nobody has to cut up their CD sleeve.
>
>Everybody happy now then ? ? ? ?
>
>
>Mr. Bastard himself.
>