OFF: Black Sabbath?

The Automind antisol at HOTMAIL.COM
Fri Oct 8 11:15:48 EDT 1999


>From: Thomas Rickert <hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU>
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>Subject: Re: OFF: Black Sabbath?
>Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 07:34:40 -0500
>
>I've noticed over the years that "sell-out" is a fairly middle-class term.
>For
>those who grew up genuinely poor, as many of those in English bands did,
>"selling-out" as we call it is the epitome of success. I sense a great rift
>in
>values that renders judgement more iffy than it might appear. I mean,
>consider Def
>Leppard, considered by many to be one of the greatest sellouts in rock
>history.
>But is it really? Their goal all along was not adherence to some
>"aesthetic"
>principle--their goal was to make it. Period. And maybe Ozzy came to see it
>that
>way, too, when he got to his solo career. Who can really blame them? Ozzy
>claims
>he would have been a criminal but for Sabbath, and Leppard would probably
>be in
>the factory. Other bands could be trotted out here as well, I'm sure. But
>the
>point is that these values of theirs are a package deal. Ttheir music is
>just as
>much a product of those values as the careerist bent that we want to judge
>them
>for.  For us to single out one aspect, in the name of some anti-success
>aesthetic
>(no matter how seemingly valid), is somewhat specious of us I think.
>
>Of course, that doesn't make me want to listen to Bark at the Moon or
>Hysteria,
>either.
>
>-tjr

We're all arguing and agreeing at the same time. The point is that this is
capitalism in place of real music.

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